
It was a pleasure to be able to interview Michael Gough, artist and one of the founder members of Sparks.
Thanks so much Mike for taking the time out to chat to me……
Tell us a bit about yourself.
Born in Forest Gate, London into a christian family, I have a sister. Went to Art School in Norwich in 1992, studied fine art painting.
Married for 10 years to the daughter of UK Missionaries to Japan, have a 19 month year old daughter, expecting a second child in 2009.
Have lived in Hackney in East London since 1999. I worked for UCCF, as a support worker with christian arts students for 5 years from 1995 and then went on to complete a Masters in fine art painting.
Tell us a bit about your testimony.
My faith became real to me at a summer youth camp in my early teens, I was a regular CofE church-goer. Being around a peer group who were deeply committed to a personal friendship with the Author of life brought a new perspective to what it meant for me to call myself a Christian, and I took the decision to pursue that level of relationship myself. I stayed involved in those camps for years; they were the most informative christian experience I had during my teenage years. My home church was a quiet, unassuming community that was introspective and built around strong social bonds, but I’m not sure many where there to celebrate the new distinct community that Christ was forming in that part of outer London.
College life in Norwich was significant time too, in that it was the time I took proper ownership for what I believed. Being away from my family home gave me space to think and wrestle with what it meant to be a believer. During my second year, on my undergraduate, I made a conscious decision to integrate what I believed. I owe a huge debt to the Lord for bringing me into contact with Greenbelt, UCCF and also, most significantly, L’Abri, the Francis Schaeffer community in Hampshire, one of the few places I felt the most integrated as a christian and a creative person.
What church do you go to, what is it like?
I’m part of a small, free evangelical church in Bethnal Green. It has a congregation of around 80-100. It was born in the early 80’s out of a prayer group that meet to support the work of an open youth project being run in the same building. We have real mix of characters with different social backgrounds. My wife and I got involved principally through the strength of welcome we received when we first attended. The quality of teaching was also a great incentive to stay around.
What is on your i-pod?
- A whole mix of stuff, current high lights include;
- Cinematic Orchestra
- Radiohead
- Portishead
- Nick Cave & the bad seeds
- Arvo Part
- Steve Reich
- Nina Simone
- Laura Veirs
- Sufjan Stevens
- Tord Gustavsen Trio
- Soul & Pimp Sessions
- Keith Jarret
- Pat Metheny
- Esbjörn Svensson Trio
- I could go on….
- plus since its a video ipod
- Terrence Malick’s Badlands
- Michael Mann’s Heat
- Flight of the concords, series 1
- oh and a healthy dose of Dr Timothy Keller
What books are by your bed?
right now?
a very old copy of the observer newspaper,
Wayne Grudem’s Systematic theology (seriously!!)
Mark Noll’s Turning Points
to be honest though I’m a hopeless, hopeless reader, full of good intentions
What is your favorite artist/exhibition at the moment?
I will usually go out of my way to look at the work of
- Tacita Dean
- Andreas Gurskey
- Jeff Wall
- Luc Tymans
- Ian Kiear
- Ed Ruscha
- Was recently impressed by a show by Christopher Orr
I remember sitting in a room with a bunch of artists and designers some 8 or so years ago at what I guess was the very beginning of Sparks - It seems like a lot has happened since then……..
Now was that the first incarnation? That group imploded regrettably for a range of reasons. Then in 1999 I started with a new bunch of final year graduates, whilst I was on Staff with UCCF.
This is a potted history; The ambition was to meet think, talk, read about what significance could be placed on being a Christian and involved in the arts. We did this one Saturday a month for a couple of years. Then we had a few chances to work together on a couple of visual arts exhibitions. The group was founded out of reading an essay by a christian dutchman living in Canada called Calvin Seerveld called ‘The freedom and responsibility of the artist’ published in his book Bearing Fresh Olive Leaves (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bearing-Fresh-Olive-Leaves-Understanding/dp/095357573X - buy it, read it, then read it again). The essay became a bit of a mini manifesto for us as we sought to work out how we could or should engage with culture with our creativity. Frankly its an essay that anyone involved in the arts, who is a believer, should read. He had this metaphor that as creative people we should make work with such professional integrity and substance that it emits sparks that warm or burn those who absorb it. So that’s what we met up to talk over.
Then, through a number of reasons, a couple of us decided to go full time in running projects, then over time this has evolved over 3/4 years into a commercial art and design studio. At our core is an ongoing interest in collaborating. Its the idea that collective input make for a greater, stronger product. When we were engaged in more exhibitions we were into the idea that we didn’t want to venerate any of us involved in the making of the work so we liked the presenting everything simply as sparks, which felt quite liberating at the time.
What is Sparks working on at the moment?
A publicly funded project of two 1.5 x 2.5m, text based, watercolour painting for a new hospital in Northern Ireland.
A corporate website for marketing company.
A set of publicity materials based on a brand identity we developed for a festival to mark the life and work of William Blake.
A special edition box set for a new album for the artist Duke Special.
Where do you see sparks in 5 years time?
Financially stable, greater profitability, with not more that 5/6 staff working with a smaller list of regular clients on interesting bespoke projects.
I guess a few years ago I would have talked more about the interface between art, culture and the gospel, but pragmatics and life circumstances mean my focus is on building a sustainable business. I don’t think that means we’ve lost our initial ambition. With a properly considered theology of the Lordship of Christ over all of life, I think that being an employer, growing a business, handling clients all fit within the gospel imperative. I think its too simplistic to see overt evangelistic campaigns and engaging with church activities as the sole means of defining christian witness. The gospel is to govern all of life so that needs rigorous reflection upon and application to every aspect of my day to day existence and I think that means more than starting each day with a ‘quiet time’.
Having worked in Architecture I know a bit about the pressures that Christians working in creative Industries face. What advice would you have about surviving as a Christian in the Arts?
It really depends on the industry but I would say broadly speaking,
Go to L’Abri at least once a year for a week. They do an annual film festival that is worth a visit.
We’re called to be faithful not successful.
Don’t distrust the church and marginalise yourself from her. She may not know how to relate to you but Ephesians tells us she should represent the broad spectrum of society, and serve as a community that is an example to all societies, so it can’t be done away with.
Work is important but there are often more important things to be doing, don’t let it be all consuming.
Be honest and open about professional jealousy.
Know your vices and your limits and don’t bow to peer pressure.
When someone tells you they don’t like the work, remember they aren’t saying that about you- so try not to take the criticism personally.
Don’t settle for professional mediocrity, aim to be better.
Don’t rely on the church community to sustain your work, get out and engage with the great unwashed.
Avoid the using the word ‘calling’ when talking about what you do as an artist/creative, loads up too much expectation and pressure
If it really ain’t working out, walking away to do something else is not a sign of failure.
What is your vision for Christians involved in the arts?
Do it properly, don’t settle for the christian community as your primary audience/customer, engage with the real industry coal-face,
(God really has got enough guitar-based worship albums)
Through Sparks you have a platform to get your work seen. What advice would you give to Christians in the arts who are struggling to get there voice heard?
Firstly properly; Properly work out who you want to hear your voice. There is an enormous range of audiences out there and what you’re doing will not appeal to all.
Art for the masses appeals to the lowest common denominator and so is usually bland and dull. The best creativity generally works in a niche.
Then work out the game you need to play to get your stuff in front of the decision makers. The game usually works to the same rules as ‘kiss-chase’.
Work out, through some honest, scrutiny if what you’re making/doing is actually up to scratch by the respective industry standard. Being a christian and an artist does not mean God has automatically given you a right to be critically acclaimed or internationally recognised, so be prepared to work out if your output needs improvement.
Anyone can have personal preferences for why they like or don’t like something, so you need to be able to measure how much reaction is a personal preference or a fundamental problem with the work.
Failure and knock backs come with the territory, so get used to the regularity of rejection.
In the past ‘Christian’ art has had a bit of a reputation for rainbows and patchwork quilts - your work is clearly not that - tell us a bit about your work?
In terms of what I do for sparks 9 times of out 10 I’m working to a brief and we don’t do a huge amount of work with haberdasheries!! Our stuff starts with listening to what a client is expecting to achieve through the product we’re designing, so we spend a lot of time making sure we’ve understood their requirements. We take time to research and think about the context that work will be seen in and profile the likely recipients and users, then we’ll work on what we think will address the expectations. We don’t always get it right we’ve been sacked by a number of clients who thought our work missed the brief by a country mile. We seek to immerse ourselves in what’s going on in our industry so we’re reading magazines, looking at shows and other studios to get a feel for what’s influencing the the visual style. We tend to watch a lot of films to.
Do you think that the church does enough to embrace and serve those involved in the arts?
Hard question to answer beyond generalities it depends on what level, I’ve never been in a situation when my creativity prevented me from being embraced by a church.
Can church movements like Newfrontiers become better at using the talents of the creatives in their ranks?
If there is any earnest desire to engage with the local community then there maybe scope for developing professionally produced resources. Pay the going rate though, doing stuff ‘for love’ doesn’t put bread on the table or a roof over your head.
Its easy to find a role for a youth worker or an accountant in a church, but what advice would you give churches about finding roles for artists?
Staff roles, i guess, would be different to being part of a congregation, I guess a thorough job description would need to fleshed out if a staff arts position was being created. Creative’s shouldn’t be on church staff, they need to be immersed in their industry and shaping their small sphere of influence through what the make.
What would you say to church leaders who have creatives on their team but find it difficult to manage them?
We often like to be perceived as mavericks, we’re the cool kids that make the church seem hip and glamourous, DON’T BELIEVE US. We need Christ like everyone and need to be reminded that the challenge is to be moulded into his image. But here is the challenge, work out how much your expectations for moulding us is genuinely Christological and not culturally of personally driven.
Is there a place for using those involved with the Arts in church worship services?beyond musicians?
I think there probably is for using video, vox pops etc, Not every really been convinced about spontaneous painting, drawing mural stuff. I was involved for time with church services/events that were meant to be more youth orientated and friendly, stuff that was thought more ‘culturally relevant’. These days I think I’m more ambivalent towards these kinds of events, principally because I think that most young people value decent quality relationships which take their views seriously rather than hip christian events- I maybe wrong though. That said I’ve been teaching our church 11-14 years old how to make short films and they’re loving it.
Do you think that artists get enough ‘air time’ in churches?
To what end? I think the chance to let people know about exhibitions, events and gigs is always welcome.
I guess you must be pretty busy - How do you balance your work, church, family life?
This is where running my own studio has its biggest benefits, I can shape my working week around my family and church commitments. I currently work form home one day a week to help look after my daughter. Plus our studio is in a building which has a lock down policy at 6.30pm so we’re all kicked out then- so no all nighters allowed!
You’ve got a soapbox and 100 words- preach to us about the Arts.
When was the last time you had a study or talk on the creative work of the Old testament prophets? I often wonder if there is work in thinking about how the likes of Ezekiel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah were used by the Lord to engage with their audience. Reading about the symbolic ‘performances’ of Ezekiel seem fairly comparable to some of the performance art I’ve watched in my time. I found chapter 10 of Fee and Stuart ’s book ‘How to read the bible for all its worth really helpful on this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Read-Bible-All-Worth/dp/0310246040). They look at the way God through OT prophets took his mosaic covenant message to different generations in different forms, but in a way that stayed faithful to the text.